Posts by The Rebel

A good point Viv and Oubliette, but as you can see from the link, it was not myself, but this privaliged school that referred to the topic " Did man land on the moon?" As a debate.

Maybe rather than shoot the messenger, you should take it up with the school governors? They are the ones holding the head teachers to account for the educational performance of the pupils, and the performance management of the staff. And maybe they would welcome your comments.

The Rebel.

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Won't get fooled again ...Moon Landing.

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so i was fooled by the witnesses.

what can i learn from that?

not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.

The Rebel

I think if you want to start an interesting debate on the subject, you could ask:-

Do you think the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki was a war crime or a terrible act of war?

I am sure that would create an interesting debate, but personally I don't think it's a topic to joke about.

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Won't get fooled again ...Moon Landing.

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so i was fooled by the witnesses.

what can i learn from that?

not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.

The Rebel

Kennighall primary school:-

Aims And Values:- To inspire, motivate and encourage children in all aspects of learning so that every individual can fulfil their potential

Class debate- did the moon landing really happen

kenninghallprimaryschool.com/2011/10/Falcons/photo-26.

As for the universe being flat. Of course believing doesn't make it so. And neither does not believing make it not so.But i have an open mind.Who knows what will be discovered in the future. The shape of the universe is something mathematicians, scientists, philosophers ,and curious people have wondered, and still wonder. Is it flat like a sphere?or negatively curved like a saddle ?or flat like a piece of paper.? shall we ask the children of kenninghall primary school? Why not?

The Rebel.

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Won't get fooled again ...Moon Landing.

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so i was fooled by the witnesses.

what can i learn from that?

not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.

The Rebel

kenninghallprimaryschool.com

oh well before I go swimming let's get back on topic. Re the comment it's " It's a stupid subject for kids to discuss, get it" and highlighted in red so I got it.

The above link is to a primary school held in very high regard in England and it is interesting that the FRONT page of their home page highlights " class debate- did the moon landing happen" with a picture of 9 & 10 year old children in school uniform debating the issue.

It should be noted that at my sons school it was the teacher who highlighted bringing the matter to class debate not myself.

Anyway I am sure we have many more examples of primary's schools that think this debate is relevant for children aged 10, and not a stupid debate.

Oubliette, I apologise for the intellectual snob, comment. It was not in reference to you not conforming to my ideas, but to your correcting my grammar. ( And of course your correct poor grammar can be used to weaken a persons argument on a debating forum)

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Won't get fooled again ...Moon Landing.

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so i was fooled by the witnesses.

what can i learn from that?

not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.

The Rebel

Well this newbie on the forum, has observed that negative interactions seem to cause more attention, and divert from the topic.

is this rewarding to me?

Well it's a sunny, Sunday, August day, the lake water is warm, I have ice cold beer in the fridge....

The Rebel.

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Won't get fooled again ...Moon Landing.

by The Rebel in

jw
friends

so i was fooled by the witnesses.

what can i learn from that?

not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.

The Rebel

Thanks Vivianne.

My post was however directed at Oubliette, but as they say great minds think a like.

My attitude to jobs and money,is find something that you love to do, live largely on little and appreciate health is wealth..

I think the above posts were a little off topic.

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Won't get fooled again ...Moon Landing.

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so i was fooled by the witnesses.

what can i learn from that?

not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.

The Rebel

Oubliette you say are a " professional " educator,. I assume you consider yourself a good one?

We would both agree it's a wonderful privalige to have an education, which is something denied the children in " Niger"

However privaliged education often results in nothing more than getting " jobs with the boys" and making money.

But back on topic, from your post, you say you are a " professional" educator. Am i correct from your post that according to you children of elementary school can not debate the moon landing?

Why?

if children of 10 can learn to copy a Rembrant why can't they learn to question?

if children of 10 can be taught to play chess to a high standard why can't a child of 10 be taught " The Answers Exist" it's the " Questions, that do not"

How old was Anne Frank when she started her diary? 14 I believe.

How old was Mesi when he made his professional debut? 14 I believe.

Romeo and Juliette, although fictional were 14.

And I believe kids can do wonderful things at fourteen because in the course of those 4 years between 10 and 14, they thrived on being challenged and taught by those I call "professional" educators be it parents or teachers at school.

You as a " professional" educator seem to think I am really stupid. Why?

Oubliettte i admit I probably do not fit in to your intellectual snobbery, but I have a successful marriage, a well balanced child of 10 who can fish, play football and can question. I can play guitar, sell my art so I don't need to work. I have my mortgage paid off, whatever...I can also believe the UNIVERSES may be flat, and question that man landed on the moon.

Anyway my question to you Oubliette, why have you on each post you have made on this thread tried to undermine my point of view, and make me look foolish on a wide world web? To me this is not how a professional educator behaves.

The Rebel.

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Won't get fooled again ...Moon Landing.

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so i was fooled by the witnesses.

what can i learn from that?

not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.

The Rebel

Just a short post to thank you for your comment " Listener".

Like you and your husband i was also as a child totally in awe of the USA being able to accomplish the moon landing and broadcast it live from the moon.That's why I am pleased that one of the good things that has come indirectly from starting this thread, is that my child's class are going to debate the issue, as a school project. ( The class is made up of 9 & 10 year olds)

You asked if I have been swayed from my opinion? In answer I would say I have had to put my boxing gloves on a few times, and I have definitly lost a few rounds, but I think the thread has given validity on the discussion both for and against.

Although it's a topic for another thread, I totally agree " it was enlightning to see the public reactions to the claim that Iraq was hiding a large amount of weapons of mass destruction" . Everything thus takes us back to the question of " government" trying mastery over the minds of its citizens.

So to conclude FREE discussion, should never be mocked or ridiculed,. Which is why as I said earlier, I am delighted as a consequence of starting this thread and my boy of 10 mentioning the subject in class," Young citizens" are going to debate the subject as a school project.

The Rebel.